It is Time for NeverTrumper Christians to LEAVE BABYLON! (and/or Obamafied Evangelicals)

Jeremiah 50:8 - "Flee from the midst of Babylon..."

Isaiah 48:20 - "Go out from Babylon..."

2 Corinthians 6:17  - "Therefore go out from their midst [Babylon's], 

and be separate from them, says the Lord" (quoting Isaiah 52:11)

Revelation 18:4 - ..."Come out of her [Babylon], my people..."

In the history of God's people, there was an actual, historical Babylonian captivity (587BC-537BC) and throughout salvation history there have been other "types" of Babylonian captivities. Both the Apostle Paul in Second Corinthians and the Apostle John in Revelation exhort Christian believers to leave their particular Babylons. Paul was speaking specifically to what 1st Century believers were facing and John was prophesying a future Babylon system dynamic during the Great Tribulation at the end of the age before Christ's Return.

In other words, every generation of Christians, heeding the command of God, are called to "leave" whatever Babylonian system. 

In short, Babylon represents anything and everything that is corrupt, anti-God, anti-Christ, deceptive, perverted and false. God's people throughout history have been affected and even at time "captured" by the Babylon of their time.

Today I believe we have been witnessing yet another manifestation of a type of Babylonian system/captivity that has this time in recent years captured much of the modern Evangelical church. Have they realized it? Of course not. That is way deception works.

The word of the Lord to His People whenever they found themselves inside a Babylonian system was to "Flee", "Go out" and/or "Come out". Of course the first captivity was God's judgement upon the southern tribes and His Word to leave only came after He finished judging them for their disobedience. After that, He rose up prophets calling His people who had remained in Babylon to leave it and return to the Promised Land and for those already in the Holy Land to keep pagan Babylonian thinking and practices out of their lives.

In our day, there has been a group of Christians known as NeverTrumpers who illustrate a group of God's People who unlike the Biblical "sons of Issachar" (1 Chron. 12:32), have NOT discerned the times in which we have been and have NOT known what God's People should do. They were captured by our current Babylonian system.

Why have I come to this conclusion? Because for decades of my Christian life, I was just like them. I virtue-signaled my Christian convictions, always portraying my position on political matters as being "balanced". In the beginning of 2016, I was essentially one of them.

But in December of 2015, I heard the Lord speak to me as clearly as He ever had in my life and His instruction to me was to "pay attention". I had never followed American politics, or International politics, closely and definitely not the American Presidential Primaries, but I knew that that was what God wanted me to do. And I began to pay attention. For the first time in my Christian life, I took a keen interest in what was happening inside American politics, especially within the Republican Party.

Unlike some Christians, I had seen and was vocally opposed to President Obama's influence upon our country (and the Church) which was and has been profoundly evil.  Effectively it during Obama's years (2008-2016) that many of the NeverTrumper Christians were captured - they ingested the cultural lies that were hosted upon the American people (Critical Race Theory, radical LGBTQ+ ideology and other Marxist ideas). I documented much of this in my last post which I entitled, "The Obamafication of American Christians" LINK.

At the end of 2015, somehow the Lord wanted me to wake up to a much deeper understanding of the "present darkness" on the earth and to the fact that the future of America hung in the balance with the 2016 Presidential Election being a watershed moment. NeverTrumpers NEVER got this memo! Instead, they threw themselves into opposing what God was about to do. How easily I could have succumbed to that effort had God not spoken to clearly! A truly horrifying thought to me now.

Would we continue in the degraded direction that Obama had taken our country (and the church!) or would we turn back in a more righteous one? I NEVER thought like this before 2016. I was too "sophisticated" to worry about such trivial matters as America's political future because I reasoned I was a more 'Kingdom-minded' Christian. I knew nations rose and fell. Why would mine be any different? In my arrogance, I would have said it was arrogant to think that America really mattered all that much in God's overall purposes.

In the beginning of 2016, I could have to a large degree been described as a "NeverTrumper Christian"; I was either a Ben Carson or a Ted Cruz guy. I was entirely put off by the way Donald Trump treated the other Republican candidates, and most notably insulting Ted Cruz's father! I was sure in the end Ted Cruz would be the Republican candidate. I remember when one concerned Christian friend of mine was worried about Donald Trump's rise during the primaries. My response, "Don't worry, he'll shoot himself in the leg". 

All along, I kept remembering that my assignment was to "pay attention". 

I had two strong Christian friends, both who happen to be named "Jim", who could "see" what I wasn't able to see at that time; they were already being "sons of Issachar" and knew that God had a some purpose for a Trump presidency that I could not at that time imagine. Interestingly, my parents-in-law were also able to embrace Trump early on showing they too had discernment that I was lacking at that time. I virtue-signaled my distaste for the man - ironically, my "paying attention" meant that I had all the details/facts to support my opinion that I normally would not have had regarding politics. I am now embarrassed about the way I interacted with those who could see while I was still in the dark.

In the end, when Donald Trump was selected to be the Republican nominee, I reluctantly, and I stress 'reluctantly', began slowly to support the man. For many of us, if we were honest, we voted for Donald Trump in 2016 as the "lesser of two evils" knowing that a Hillary Clinton presidency would only cause America to spiral downward further in the the demonic direction that eight disastrous Obama years had taken us.

I remember posting on Facebook on November 9th, 2016 after Trump won: 

"RELIEVED. HOPEFUL. And INCREDIBLY PROUD of the millions of Americans who knew we needed a change. I have never prayed more for an election in my lifetime. and I now commit myself to pray more for Trump and his Administration than I have for any previous Administration."

And after mostly positive comments on my post-election post, a close pastor friend of mine, posted the first of what would become literally HUNDREDS of NeverTrumper Christian comments on my Facebook Wall over the subsequent 4 years.

I was waking up. I wasn't fully a "son of Issachar" when Trump was elected, but I believed we as a nation had dodged a bullet. Now in 2025, I think countless millions of Americans are in full agreement that God has used and is using Donald Trump to dodge many bullets and to fix many of the things that were broken in our nation.

Like I said above, unlike many of the new tribe of NeverTrumper Christians, I had resisted publically and vocally the policies of President Obama such as his Marxist ideas like Critical Race Theory and Social Justice, that divided America in a way it hadn't been divided since the 1960s. My first NeverTrumper Christian commenter on my FB wall had already been baptized in both of those "Babylonian" Marxist ideas.

NeverTrumper Christians with rare exceptions, like John Piper, adopted many of the Marxist ideas that had historically been foreign to and resisted in Conservative Evangelical Christianity. Many Evangelicals tragically were thoroughly brain-washed during the Obama years.

I think of the historically conservative Evangelical The Gospel Coalition (TGC) which tragically drifted into Babylon during the Obama years. One of its leaders, who renamed himself Thabiti Anyabwile (formerly named Ron Burns), was a perfect example of an Obamafied Christian who embraced such Marxist ideas. His virtue-signaling blog post in June 2016, "Evangelical Leaders: Tell Us to Vote for Clinton" LINK, illustrate exactly what a 'Babylonian Captive Evangelical' looks like. Instead of such Marxist Thabiti Anyabwile, I would direct anyone interested in a NON-Babylonian Captive Black American Christian voice to the work of Martin Luther King's niece, Alveda King. Website: https://www.alvedaking.com/ LINK

I watched dear friends become ardent supporters of the racist, Marxist hate-group we know as Black Lives Matter (BLM). Good people fell for nearly all the false narratives and were infected by the hatred that fueled BLM's founders/leadership. Others became tolerant of so-called "Gay Christianity" and today endorse it openly. The insane ideas of the Transgender movement were also adopted by many claiming to be Evangelicals. Left-leaning, big Government Democrat Christians of the 90's literally became socialists during the Obama years. Their Obamafication, which was BY DESIGN as Megan Basham has so irrefutably demonstrated (see my previous post), didn't stop there - it infected their views on science, abortion, American history, family, God-ordained authority structures and other Biblical concepts.

And because they had already been "captured", NeverTrumpers, lacking discernment, believed almost everything the Fake News Mainstream Media began accusing Donald Trump's Administration of - be that Russian Collusion in the 2016 Presidental Election, the sordid lies about Trump in the Steele Dossier, the bogus Mueller Investigation, Ukraine-gate, etc. etc. The list was endless. The false accusations of Trump's crimes, support for his impeachments, calling him a misogynist and a racist who put illegal immigrants into cages! (something that Obama actually did).

Note: to this day, the NeverTrumpers who cheered along with anything and everything that Trump was falsely accused of, have NEVER retracted their statements and/or repented for propagating falsehood after falsehood. Further evidence of their Babylonian captivity where truth gives way to falsehood and deception.

As Trump's first term progressed, what really turned me into a strong supporter of Donald Trump was the insane amount of hatred and vitriol that everyone seemed to direct towards him. The more they hated him, the more I found myself endeared to the man. And the more I became convinced that my instruction from the Lord to "pay attention" was about a much larger purpose for the man that I had any way of realizing.

Rather than realize that God raised up President Trump, as He had raised up the Persian pagan Cyrus in the 6th Century BC, to judge a Babylonian system. The modern Babylonian one consisted of the ideological and geopolitical forces that were dominating the world in 2016 - pushing every godless ideology that Satan had concocted over the previous 150 years - Marxism, atheism, socialism, evolution, globalism, environmentalism, infanticide (abortion), sexual immorality and perversion, etc. etc.

NeverTrumper Christians were duped. Instead of Biblical Justice, they were seduced into Social Justice (Marxist). Instead of Biblical notions of Immigration, they uncritically adopted the Open Border (and Sanctuary City) policies that have nearly destroyed our great nation. From universally acknowledging that marriage is between one biological male and one biological female, many Evangelical Christians allowed the Babylonian ideas of Gay marriage and Transgender ideology into their Christian worldview. NeverTrumper Christians were involved in all three of the misnomer efforts, evangelicals who advocated for Hillary Clinton, and the actual efforts named "Evangelicals for Biden" and "Evangelicals for Harris". All three of these groups were basically united in their hatred of Trump (and his MAGA movement). They would of course as professing Christians never use the term "hate", but let's be completely honest. I literally lost dear friends who would no longer relate to me as a Christian Trump supporter.

Some NeverTrumper Christians and/or Obamafied Christian organizations to be fair did not go as far as others. Some are actually returning to their more conservative foundations and have begun to root out Marxist ideas (like Critical Race Theory) that they were advocating. In some of these organizations, the battle rages on as Obamafied Christians within them are quite influential.

I will conclude this post by getting back to the title - "It is Time for NeverTrumper Christians to LEAVE BABYLON! (and/or Obamafied Evangelicals)".

As Obama and those around him (including the Fake News Media) are currently being exposed for all of their evil, their lies, and their treason, the credibility of Christians who supported them, believed them and carried water for them (think George Soros' social change model called "Rent-an-Evangelical" - LINK) will be destroyed.

The word of the Lord for such Christians (for those who still "are" Chrisitans) is LEAVE BABYLON! Admit you were captives. Return to the faith you once held onto (free from godless Marxism). Repent for your slander of Trump and his followers. Acknowledge that a secure border and law enforcement are Christ-like and God-ordained means to curb evil (and while your at it, re-read what a BIBLICAL Sanctuary City was). Reconcile yourselves to the fact that you got Covid wrong (and the so-called vaccines). Declare that you became of victim of "Toxic Empathy". Become uncompromisingly pro-Life again (from conception). Stop your slide into accepting Gay Marriage as somehow compatible with the Christian faith. Don't succumb to fearmongering of the latest bogeyman, 'Christian Nationalism' In short, stop reinterpreting the Bible to support the Babylonian thinking you've adopted in the past 20 years.

Christians can and do disagree on many issues, but "baptizing Marxism" is not one of them! Marxist ideology is entirely incompatible with Historic Christianity. If you want to keep your Marxism, do us all a favor and join the deconstructionists who have left the Christian faith. Stop spreading Babylonian infection within the Evangelical Church.

And to name some names of Evangelical leaders/influencers/theologians and organizations that are either NeverTrumpers (some ardent ones) and/or have been Obamafied.

David French, Phil Vischer, Rachel Held Evans, Thabiti Anyabwile, Russell Moore and the Ethics and Religious Liberty Coalition (ERLC), Christianity Today (CT), many* in The Gospel Coalition (TGC), Andy Stanley, After Party, Vote Common Good, Shane Claiborne and 'Red Letter Christians', the Evangelical Immigration Table (EIT), The Ethics and Religious Liberty Coalition (ERLC), J.D. Greear, George Wood, Francis Collins, BioLogos, Rick Warren, Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship (IVCF), many Vineyard Churches, Ron Sider, the late Tony Campolo, Ed Stetzer, Ray Ortland, Gavin Ortland, Matt Chandler, Jemar Tisby, Eric Mason, David Platt, Evangelicals For America (linked to Evangelicals for Harris), Scot McKnight, Brian Zahnd, Denny Burk, and surprisingly even men** such as John Piper, Beth Moore, Max Lucado, Tim Keller and Al Mohler**!

Note: I realize the aforementioned list (which is only a sample) has a range of those who are far less liberal than some of the others, but they are ALL either NeverTrumpers and/or have to at least some degree been Obamafied. It is for that reason I consider ALL of them to to one extent or another Babylonian Captives.

*Some TGC people are NOT NeverTrumpers, but it has been a major platform for theologically conservative NeverTrumpers like Anyabwile and has been a vehicle to promote Marxist ideas (Critical Race Theory, Social Justice, Systemic Racism).

**I will briefly explain why I have included the following conservative Evangelicals, who were a shock to me along the way.

1. Al Mohler - Reformed Southern Baptist. First of all, I want to affirm Mohler for standing against Marxist ideas, such as Critical Race Theory, as entirely incompatible with Biblical Christianity.

That being said, he started in 2016 as an ardent NeverTrumper. He Tweeted, "Never. Ever. Period." after Trump's Republican nomination that year and DID NOT vote for Trump that November. He reluctantly voted for Trump in 2020 thankfully and encouraged his audience to do likewise to stop Biden. But he drank the Kool-Aid calling January 6th, 2021 an "insurrection" instigated by Trump which is evidence of adopting the Obamafied, Fake-News media narrative.

Sadly, he likened the 2024 Election to a dilemma for "Christians who think (and vote) like me with an awkward if not excruciating predicament." LINK Rather than having seen and believed much of the truth that had come to light regarding the endless baseless attacks against Trump and his followers, he "virtue-signaled". Thankfully, he had enough discernment to vote for Trump last year over and against Kamala Harris, but still bases his perspectives and opinions on Babylonian System lies/deception. As more of the truth comes to light, Mohler will need to acknowledge that he bought into much of the propaganda which to me is evidence of captivity. Only God knows people's hearts, but could it have been a fear of man issue, not wanting to be identified with #MAGA Christians and all that such a designation connotes in America today?

2. John Piper - Reformed Baptist. I don't think anybody who follows Piper is unclear about his NeverTrumperism - after Trump's last election, he wrote, “Having delivered us from one evil, God now tests us with another.” LINK. This is Babylonian captive thinking which he is still demonstrating. Piper simply does NOT discern what we have been facing. In particular, the 2020 Election was lost I believe in part due to Evangelicals like Piper not being able to discern the evil of the times. He influenced tens of thousands of Christians to essentially help Joe Biden get elected. For this he will have to answer to God.

3. Beth Moore - she became an ardent NeverTrumper believing Christian Trump supporters back in 2020 to be "seduced", "manipulated" and "used" LINK. Again, entirely unable to discern the times in which we are living, she has demonstrated many of the traits of Babylonian captivity. How will she respond in these days as she realizes she based her opinions on her own "seduction" and "manipulation" by the Fake News Media! Even now, she has believed the latest dangerous bogeyman label of "Christian Nationalism" as being another emerging American evil. She is being used by the Left to advocate for the Immigration policies of the Left, which advocates for Open Borders that have served to destroy our country. The irony of ironies is that in her own words, she is the one being "used"!

4. Max Lucado - going back to 2016, Lucado came out strong against Trump in an article wherein he claimed he was "baffled" by Christian support for Donald Trump that was re-published in the Fake News, Washington Post - LINK. Fast forward to 2020, and Lucado is carrying water for Critical Race Theorists and BLM by begging forgiveness "for his and his white ancestors’ acts of racism and inaction" LINK. Today he is a signed supporter of the Evangelical Immigration Table (EIT) which is backed by the money of avowed socialist, George Soros. That should be enough. LINK. Again, I refer people to Basham's book, Shepherds for Sale for further evidence of Soros' funding of the EIT and documenting the captivity of the likes of Lucado.

5. Tim Keller - the late Reformed Presbyterian, pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York co-founder of The Gospel Coalition (TGC). I will refer again to Shepherds for Sale which documents the slide of Keller into many Babylonian ideas. Subtle. Slow. Nuanced. Possibly the greatest success story of the Left co-opting and using an Evangelical for their purposes. One of Basham's examples is that for the "staffers at Keller's church network and preacher-trained ministry [those who] donated to political campaigns since 2015, according to Federal Election Commission records,...gave EXCLUSIVELY to Democrats" (pg. 62, Shepherds for Sale).

I know that Keller had an incredible impact through his life and ministry, but in many areas, he essentially became a Babylonian captive and poisoned many, albeit slowly and subtly, into "baptized" Marxist ideas. He also did NOT discern what Trump was/and still is fighting against. Keller's no longer with us, but his disciples need to LEAVE BABYLON.